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Episode 20 · 9 months ago

Fireside Chat w/ Aditya Patel

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Welcome to another addition to our miniseries called Fireside Chat where we bring in guests and talk about the world of motorsports. Today we have none other than Aditya Patel who is an Indian racing driver who has had much success in Blancpain GT Series Asia and has now ventured into the other side of the sport by organizing India’s first FIA backed F4 and F3 series called as F4 India and Formula regional India respectively! 

Join us as Aditya shares his journey into racing and his passion for racing which transcends into organizing India’s first official F3 and F4 series.

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As a race driver when you' re watching it, you always put yourself in that seat and you just like a yeah, you can feel you could feel the speed going through the corners. You feel that little bit, that element of danger is what you feel on these circuits that you, just, I guess, don' t feel on these new age tracks that, like you, see like Buddh and Shanghai, malaysia hello and welcome back to one other episode with F one and Fiction folks, we' ve been monitoring your listening and thank you for all the love you' ve been giving us on this side series called if one fireside, chats and based on that, we will continue to bring these. these amazing shows with amazing people on the PODCAST. Let' s get the show started, we are our hosts ION ARCAS and I' m Sorin and I' m a Itha, my host, Oh yeah. I guess you are to be yes didn' t we have a third host with us. Other thing I mean he needs no introductions if you' ve been following the Indian motor scene recently more so this is one name that you just cannot skip or if you take it away the floors. Yours thanks get sorry I jumped in to you no, no. no, this is thanks, is great to be here on this show, and you know there has been a lot of interest that we' ve been receiving from a lot of motorsport pans. Actually in the last couple of weeks since we launched from the riginal COMEFA an IRL, so it' s been a busy couple of weeks, but I' m sure forward to it' s just two weeks in and there' s another five months to go before we actually have the first race. So it' s going to be Super Lectic, but looking forward to same her man, a suit yeah, I mean I think, like you' ll, launched or in star page, maybe right about the time when you launched the whole thing, and I it' s already shot up so much and I' m like Oh this is, I learned the attraction this is getting increase. I wasn' t sure how many people are actually following the scene right, so I just a love that I mean to be to be honest, because we did the ex pon racing league in tone and nineteen, and there was this interaction, but in this last year and a half with the pandemic, I think the number of Formula One fans and Motorsport Pans, particularly in India, has just shot up hugely and is probably a lot to do with drive to survey. But I I wild we can thank them for that, yeah o. Why not? You know You just tell our listeners a little bit about yourself, so the I they know who you are all right so, but basically I am a racing driver more than a business man. I started racing when I was pretty young. I must have been four years old when I first rove a go ca eleven when I first did a coca race- and I used to do it more like a weekend hobby, just kind of pest to my parents to take me to the book that track made made Friends of the book and track who were doing the same back at the time. So every weekend it was the same bunch of guys will be there and we used to just participate in races for fun. But I guess that that the competition just kind of grows on you and then you want to go further and then, since my dad used to race as well, he denoise to the race track. Yeah he' s to a touring cars in India used to prepare her as a fasten as well so Sancius to go to the track as a kid and at some point I ' m messing that Bob had to bite so yeah when it did. I guess I was then old enough to jump into rises, sixteen years old and is no looking back really want to as cy you. you like the feeling of winning. You want to do it again and again it' s an addictive feeling so and then it kind of just led to international model sport after winning the National Championship. I raced in a Championship called from the BMW in two thousand and eight post at I was picked up by Fox Av en modes sport to race in the Polou in Germany, which was which was a big change for me because, as he youngster, you guys know everyone dreams to be in Camlan. But after one year of single set racing, I knew do it yea I took that chance and I jumped into Torins. It was fully sponsored, so I said He. Why not? I mean one really has done it yet, probably yeah. So let me give it a shot so yeah that kind of led to a good relationship with Fox wagin and then with Ouli and still still with Aube. In many ways doing many events for them. Monocot is kind of taking a back seat on the driving side of things. We' ve been busy now, organizing races and obviously the next big thing. Being from the original form of for an a Ye right yeah I mean that' s really awesome. You know just to her used to be into racing in general, like it' s pretty awesome that you got...

...the exposure at the right age to this awesome, sport and yeah, you were able to pursue it and you know make a cur or out of it, so yeah, that' s pretty awesome. I' ve heard this thing from from from one of your interviews where, for folks, Mr complate other this, I' m saying that right right, like that' s your father, a yeah and and he' s he' s, he started off his career by sort of working as a mechanic. Please car! Stop me correct me if I' m saying anything is correct and and that got him into the whole weel where he eventually became a legend, that he is right now. Having heard those stories, do you think you' ve also had a sort of contradiction that do you want to go towards the engineering side? Or do you was talk, but always always the love? I was always copied, I' m not an engineer and ever want to be an engineer I mean I am fascinated by how R car works and the physics of driving more than anything else. So you know I like how I like to study the suspension, how the suspension won, because that, at the end of the day, relates to how you drive the car and how you need to drink is from that side of it. Yes, but engineering is just not my time so completely I mean my death or my dad is started with the engineering, the mechanics of the car, and then he started to drive the car after that. But for me it was just I driving I and then he made me work on the car because, if I don' t know what goes through, what goes into a race car- and I shouldn' t be racing- so very that' s kind of what he taught me- Fer, fair enough, nice talking about poring cars- I guess, as you mentioned, like you kind of realized early on that you want to switch to touring cars and that' s where you decide it to kind of go see. You carringten, so let' s talk a little bit about the twenty four hours of no booting. You know that is obviously like one of the July. Great events in the you know motor sport calendar and you just tell us a little bit about your experience there and that track man that and that' s I obviously a yeah. I remember I so clearly remember the first time I actually drove around the track, and it was in that old tts race car that actually raised in I' d, never driven around the Nobori in road car before that. Even so, I was shit scared. I was honestly, I' ve never been scared on a race back before and this time it was what it was already like six years into a proper racing career and suddenly I' m like this is scary. What is this I? But there' s something about that fear that kind of really that you start to enjoy. Like everyone says you have motor sport, it' s scary! you know drivers enjoying fear. I I think I just did no fear to actually got on to the Nobori and then you ' re scared, because you' re going so fast around that circuit and the barriers are right next to you on and I' m sure you guys may have seen, accidents and no bogging and they have the big there' s. no such thing as a small accident, yeah yeah exactly and I like any other race track. You just go into the gravel trap and yeah. I know You get the tire barrier and not much happens, but no boring. It gives you a fright so yeah It was. I I mean the first time I drove around is scary and it is still continus to be scared. You- and I I on the fact, but what what' s interesting is that any other race track that I was going to take like maybe seven eight laps to learn the track, and then you just get out of the car close your eyes and you can drive round the circuit. But Nobel dring took me about thirty laps, I' m not much of a game or a imbraces. So I didn' t do much of that. Before going there, so it took me thirty laps on the Nobo ring which, if you can lit thirty it laps on a Nogo, no boring the three hours of driving it was. I was just going to say like did that just consumer twenty four hours, because that track is so huge yeah I mean honestly, I hadn' t even done thirty laps by the time the race started. I had only done, I think, about twenty four twenty five laps in total, Aram and Oberringingen. I actually got to the race, so only at the end of my first in of the actual twenty four Ras was when I could sit back close my eyes, and I knew the track from corner to corner, but o that it is just so hard to learn but yeah. It' s an amazing experiences. Anybody I meet a lot of people who say they want to drive around that track. I mean, if you haven' t, you should the good thing about it. Is it' s not just like any other race take where you have to make a booking you can. If you happen to be fortunate enough to be in Germany, you can just drive to it, buy a ticket and it ' s like a toll road and you just get on the surface and go that is on the bucket list. Now I guess exactly so talking about ord. Let' s talk about a little about the records that you have sent...

...it to recently. I guess, if you hold to records one is for for the fastest lap in a SUV and the wouldn' t pass the CIRCI as well as gaining the top speed with the Aud Adit we ten. So you know why? Don' t you tell us a little bit about your experience by taking those lakes? How do you in prepare for those events and yeah just Mocatte? First of the two was the top speed one which Holda the Ale and Atopa both actually had spoken to me when we went an event - and they said you know we' re thinking of this, this cool idea- and we want you to drive so I said yeah sure, but I can' t think of a single road in this country, where I git, it' s probably no a strip long enough or safe enough to do it as well. So it' s a doors were scouting for something right now we have a new things in mind, a few places and and then they got back to me. they said we found this route, it ' s not open yet to public, and it' s long, there ' s they' ve completed more than fifteen kilometers of it, and we don' t need that much so I said that sounds good. Then that ' s, let' s give it a go so yeah we went there one morning and to the CO on the road, and I thought: okay, it' s not going to be easy because I hadn' t at that point. I hadn' t hit even three hundred kilometers for our year while driving a car, because the race cars would do about Hoddan even ten, two eighty, but that' s a race car right. So it ' s got its Saroda and suspension everything depend of handle the speed but yeah just the first run itself. I think we hit the speed- and this is during the trial- is not not that difficult between two hundred and fifty to three hundred kilometers per a the cows moving around a little bit and then, the ground and the eended and is actually the a bit it' s just that in between moment, where you' re, like Oh, what' s happening now, and then it s so yeah it was was nice was was not as scary as the nobbing or how do you want to hit that speed? It never bring this. I don' t know no way, that' s interesting to hear like a description for down fore. I I ' ve never heard anyone say like that' s how you feel that down for sitting after a particular speed, that' s interesting yeah, because basically it' s both sides of the car right in the flat and the body of the car, as well as the aerodynamic. If you SAR the outside of the car, that kind of work together to suck the time to to push the car and set the time to the days at the same time, and then you feel it at a certain point and then suddenly it feels like the cars just not normally you' re, moving with the wind you' re moving, because the cars light etc, but suddenly it' s sucked into the ground and then it' s not moving around anyway, just staying where you wanted. It' s like it' s one day, interesting, interesting yeah. So that was the top speed and I think yeah then we' re getting to the restaurant. That was more recently in an SUV. But, to be honest, I mean Suis these days. Yes, they' re still big. They still will a lot that particular car, the Edo, the RS two thousand and four hundred killow, or something like that. Still a heavy heavy car, but behind the relijus felt like a normal during time. It' s so pointy handles really well because of the CORPRO system. As all WEL drives teend, it puts out some six hundred and something bache. So it' s really really quick to make you yeah. So I was surprised even the brakes, considering it So heavy. I the prone and get back on the power, and I just felt like I was driving a normal size during the it' s awesome, because I can ' t imagine like driving sv around attacking just thinking about like the sensitive cavity of the cart being a little fire up and yeah. It' s pretty awesome to ofo that yeah, it' s the Castill de fun, a well yeah, especially her the only your favorite track. That' s what you yeah! The only thing that I found interesting again came down to aerodynamics. I hadn' t really driven a big car or a non sports car around that circuit at a speed, and that' s when I realized when I went through the twisty bit, ten five six on is a there' s just this cars. just so like this, it' s I have to really hold on to it for your life and then I realized there' s no real wing on this car fronterior yeah. I mean it' s not that easy when you had to do that, but I think when I think, when Holmes, whose editor of a car he drove the car in...

...one lap- and he came back in using it, looked so easy when we start for the outside, but how the hell do you drive that car around this fact, because this did not mean to go around corners that quickly yeah yeah, I mean you had the famous people like you' ve? Had some people tell you right like no, I' m not going to sit next to you very a yeah, yeah yeah. You know, I remember saying any of this publicly. I want to go back in time a bit to to NK resaying like how did how did that come about, and you know how was that as a journey start to you know the whole career being like if you can walk our audience through the whole encreasing and then everything else n k a thing started. Basically, I think I in form this team in two thousand and six so early, two thousand and six he did a shoot out to select for drivers for the team at back of the time was sponsored by Bar Petroleum and tea and Amaron batteries. So he had a Ho Kas two cars running with speed to Cazan Amaron, so he was looking for fold drivers. so I took part in the shootout. I was selected among the four drivers in two thousand and six and it was a it was was the first year for the former role on, so no one really knew what to do with it. So we took that year to learn and two thousand and seven Narin worked over the winter with us, an Wallowin, Sandre Balu and I was in school. So I couldn' t really go there and work on the car. I was just kind of I landed up on the first race of two thousand and seven and drove it, but they made massive changes over the winter and into force race. We were just on Pol and by a huge margin, so it suddenly it that, like between that between the last race in two thousand and six and the first race in two thousand and seven in my mind I was like and in they do not a driving and I go there for practice and and I' m just what just happened. I didn' t do anything between that PAT on this and suddenly I' m on poll by huge margin and it and the cars doing everything that I wanted to do so as when I realized that he a the car, plays such a big role very well apart from the driving side of it. But it' s a game as a great experience to be with Marin and we' ve had a close relationship ever since then as well. He had got in some sponsors and and contes okay. okay, when I want to come to the whole, the whole event that India' s hosting again like the floor is all yours, but for folks India is finally having after a long break and fiacre event the formula each not is one yeah, not like M M, originally exactly so other thing. Can you just walk our audience through? What' s happening? What are you doing and like What should they look out for, I think for a lot of people. I ' ve noticed who are saying who are excited about, come regional and coming to India, etc, etc. I don' t think a lot of people actually know what condeetion is were very realistically, former regional is a homlets, so you have a ladder in motor sport. you have good patting. You have then from Lafoole three, which is your regional former three, that ' s where they call averagin, which will be from the treen America foreplane, the original former three in each of these parts of the world. If treat has been given the title of Eretian, because it' s more it ' s more for the continent and of course, then, after that, your next step is fi. A tree is a faster version of the formula regional fricase F to a on. So in the last I think five six years, I think, is when the SI is actually just made. It a lot easier to go up this ladder, because before that It was quite confusing, I mean there was first, you didnt have super license points so to get to formula. One was a completely different story. Then, when you got out of Vocati, you had ten different junior formula options to choose from you had to figure out which one was the right one or you may be, do three different to new formulas. Over the years then you' d go to formula three. You had British from the three You had. I think it was European on the tree from a une series, different types of form, let three or in cause different manufacturers, etc, etc. diffent engine suppliers, all that Blah Blah Blah. Then you had a it at a time. P. PDP to you had the world series by re. Now you had all these different championships going on, so it was great, but what was happening was because there was so many so many championships coming aboutt. There was small grades everywhere here in the so an you never really...

...had like a good, proper, proper racing grade. So then, I think the FIA, along with the Super, license point system, they' ve, also kind of streamline this entire process going upward. Yes, while there are a few other championships there more, there are less serious drivers. I can imagine in these championships, which are as again say, of the Po Pomare, O the three and so on, and what these championships enable youngsters to do is receive these points which help them on their way up to Formula One and also it' s a standardized kind of platform, the car of standardize around the world, so whether you re form a co, Yo public or there you' re driving in more or less the same cow wherever you are in the world and then the same goes perform. the regional. Your raving in moralist from the three fir tree is slightly different. It' s different engine, different manifactur, but either way it' s been standardized, there' s a proper adder of proper structure. Even now, if you race in India now you can get a suplice points which means that us, if you win yeah, if you win, you need forty to get to follow one. if you win for in your one and if you inform the original in your to e, you have the opportunity to receive thirty Super Lis wons, which means now. You just need the more to receive a former Olin Super Lison. Of course, more what' s more important. Is You need the experience before getting You yeah yeah? I need to perform. We fi three and two o. At least this enables youngsters to receive that opportunity and what it will do is, I think, l there are so many more yongster around the country who want to get in the scoot. We' ve never done it before. Who now have like a clear picture, clear part in their mind and their parents and themselves they can say: Hey, look, okay, good! Now, if I want to get in the sport, I know this is my ladder. That' s it. Reet was like: Where do I go next cool? Does that exist? So there' s this championship? Oh there' s that, Oh I didn' t know about this. You know so yeah, that' know the championship and you know where you' re going to go yeah I mean I completely ale, like, even even after being like a fan of the sport in general for a long while it has been a huge misty for me as to a U FIFF NFL like I know how that goes on, but it' s always been a misery to me. How do people even teach there like if somebody like you know how did even now an Cantin beach a fan like yeah? It has always been a big Mussy to me, so I mean I' m glad you kind of first you expeded too well for everyone, and I' m glad that. Finally, somebody from India who wants to get into a font has a very clear and defined path that they can follow and yeah. That' s just awesome. You' re also doing it in an exciting way, right, like you, there' s this this street circuit coming up, so that sort of adds to the whole fascination factor. So what is that thought behind? Having like a Hadra at the street sortit to the addition of the mix, I think when we started with the ex one racing Le Concept itself, we were very ambitious post to call to start, but street circuits were part of what we wanted to do, because there' s there are a few circuits in India right now and they' re all so far off from the people who you actually want at the circus to be watching them. So it just kind of it loses you a lot of audience. So that' s why we wanted to do that for the experation and that kind of that idea, kind of stuck in a few people' s head when we went back then and met them, and then when we started planning for formless and Com lefore, that' s when we received the support from them and a few other people saying you know what this was an idea, then why don' t we implement it now? Because if we do it on the streets of S, metropolites people will know about this. Spot people will want to come and watch it, and then it will suddenly become Indias. Next, big sport right. You don ' t have to only have cricket stadium. Aryans. have your race track on your day on year. It you know It shows everyone so that ye yeah I mean the kind of eyeballs street circuit will get. You is huge and it' s a challenge that all drivers love you. you have to be on the top of a game to be able to drive well on a steak or so there' s a lot of there' s a lot of pros that come with streets. I get so the bonds is that if you do hit a wall, you can damage it power heavily, but the teas will be safe because you have to build a street circuit to a certain specification given by the FIA. So your barricades have to be me in a certain way. You have to have fences, You have to have all the safety parameters a place and the cars are extremely safe. the son, so we ' re going with all that- and you just hope now that it' s a Hu subset in terms of these tracks, then right like if I a greede tracks, is this sort of like what you need to have these...

...- and I think like carry in Coimbatoor- is this Ffrere, but do we have more tracts that we don' t know about which are if I graded and you can have you know those certified races well in India right now, we' ve got three tracks that people know of and can go and drive the cars around, whether it' s racing or not racing. We have been reading about it as well. For those who are listening yeah there are there. there is news of Mortram up in different parts of the country, so we adaly looking forward to that. A street circuit, on the other hand, is as it can be, FIA grade three two or one, but it' s assembled during an actual race weekend leading up to his weekend and then is dismantled after that, for the Dicabo, like curry, for example, is an fi agreed three circuit where you can raise your regional from etre past from the focus etc. Then the Cheni circuit, the arts fi agreed to you- can raise pretty much anything except for lo on Corsand, then the bud international circuit is FI grade one. So you can raise every race car around. That' s, okay as arid alright in general, you you got into the sport major as a research. That' s what you know got into the sport, that' s what you have been pursuing for the past many years and recently everything that we have heard and learned about you is that you' ve been on the other side of the whole enterprise, where you are organizing things now. So why don' t you just give us some insight into? How did this shift happen of you know going from racing to organizing eassie events, so, basically in two thousand and eighteen, when we started planning for the racing leg, I was still racing full time in the block. Pandit series in Asia was kind of like doing the two together simultaneously and the idea came about basically because our man and I we used to travel together quite racist abroad, right from a two thousand, a D fifteen. Sixteen Seventeen, and on these travels we talked about how we could do different things to make more disporting in the bigger, better, more accessible and things like that, and obviously all these were just conversations over those few years and we' d always like talk about it laugh about it, but we knew at some point. we wanted to implement some something at least and then at some point in twenty eighteen, we ad, you know, we' ve spoken about it for so long. Let' s try something: Let' s, let' s try and do something about it and and make things work. So we met another friend of ours, a be non, an who has Benn in sports leagues before and together Yeah. We just kind of put something to paper, figured something out and then started going out to investors and said you know. This is our plan. Obviously we want to make. we want to grow This port in the country. There' s huge potential to grow up motorsport in India and if we work together sure we can come up with something that can change the way people look at this port and then yeah that kind of consumed most of our time in Twenda nineteen. So both of us didn' t do any racing in two thousand and nineteen we just focused full time on setting up the recent Lyue and then in twenty twenty the pandemic it after we did one season, and then that meant we were even more full time into planning and and bringing people in vote to make this even bigger and and the somewhere in the middle of twenty twenty two as the end o o tousand and twenty things clicked and yeah one three from the fourth region from the four or some and IRL l into place a to to it. So you couldn' t have given us a better transition on to the next topic, and we before before, having some discussions and everyone like we want to talk about this blant cries and B, a acity masters that that that you went. For I mean the whole story has at least we' ve looked into. Is this no short of a Bollywood movie towards the whole end with your with the whole drama of the tire boasting and everything so, but before you go there do? Can you Can you walk us through like what is this series this for me like as a lay man, it' s more like you see red, Faris and F one, and you know that side. But what you' ve done is more like a need for speed. Gaming sort of you know visits, then what is what is this GTC RS and then what is workers through the whole thing? All right so I mean when I started racing I used to love watching motorsport programs on TV and back then we used to get something on staff,...

...cots called international motor pork news and and a few other more sport programs, a Traain, our programs and they used to show foma three Puchero, the Gt one series or something like that. They were different. You know, and then you had these saline sevens going around the Tan yeah, the in one. You know Ferraria. Now You talking Yehoi, but I never. I never dreamed that I would be in old where we' d be racing, those cast, because in India we had as teams and we had. You had no aim who went to boivent. You had the current who went abroad and did a m in the way of world series, Blah Blah Blah and then Armand did that he did on P and from the two and he was going up that same ladder and then, when I did that Pollok up for one year, just to see how things would turn out. Obviously, I still at the time I wanting to get back into single seaters at one point, but this was on d TM weekends and we were watching the generation of Dtho, which was game last year. The war in that generation an he can fire over The years and and then it just suddenly opened my eyes to a completely different world, because I' m now watching these super cars going around to and in two thousand and nine and ten super cars went that I mean, if you saw a super CI in India, you your eyes would pop eaten. Now, if you see a fed every other day Now so exactly in so much since then, but that' s when I kind of said you know what this will be cool now and I get to drive these cars. I can work my way up this Ma the I' ll get to drive potestatis how these Maseres, whatever you know that this world has to offer to yeah continued up that ladder the first year without we did the number being pretty for us. So there' s not a pewer going up to worste twenty four as and then post the twenty four, as I did a race on the norborne again, but in a t three cap that one was tough and scary, but it was a super experience and then the year after that I did the Adad Masters now, just to put it in perspective for those who are listening and they don' t really know what this is. I gt Mas ldd masters was just a bunch of super cars racing against each other. It was it' s Germany' s biggest GT championship where you' ve got manufacturers like Lamborghini ow, the Mercedes Poshay, Mleen Bentley, you name them they' re all there with their super cause. So you got the Bogni Hurricane. The Lea The Mercedes at The time was tess. Mg Ferrari was the four five eight Italia, so they were all these Parson on the bed and you' re going bumper to bumper with cars like that, which you would never dream of even her in your wildest dreams on the road. So those are the kind of championships at then began to participate in over the years. I then went into a single make championship up to two years racing in Europe and Tcu, because again I was without these, so they wanted me to race. The audral, the mscus single, makes all the cars were odes and then two years after two years through that, then the blank and Ta Shar was introduced and blocked. Series was a very well known Series world. well for being one of the best tt championships. There is this used to be the GP one world championship. Then gt one got pased out. That became the blank t three championship in Europe alone, then the expandit ation. Now it' s called the GP World Challenge actually and the other must year was great. We had a few wins lost a championship by one point, for my two reasons: that racing: Isn' t it has it' s a part of it? I mean you look back at it and we still had some great races. We slanted the year on a high is Super Fun. You know what I think, like eight out of twelve or like some Cretin number of podiums, and that' s that' s just that' s a yeah. We got lots of Poms, we had three wins. We should have had more win. I think another, two men at least, but one was the time lower. The other one was just all on me and a leading race on slick tires. It was wet and I spun by myself with in a second a so we as a gas part of racing, so I guess, submits Gilbert. Was Your Team Mate? Why don' t you tell us a little bit about you know having ten, because I think in general, anybody who thinks about motor sports knows about everyone, and you know the the that they are in two separate cars. But here you are sharing a car, so you know how different is it when two different drivers probably obviously have different times times and how de Prand you know match of the e Buti mean it' s always about finding compromises right, o people who are married and in relation you have...

...good days, you have bad nave days that make it all worth it, but so yeah I mean with Mich. He actually approached me in twenty. Sixteen when I was raising the Elms Cup, he was there one of the race weekends. he said you know I' m working together with someone to put something together in an Houri next year, so speak to our H, India, and see if they would be of interest to them. I Howlin, I said yeah, so you know go for it. it sounds interesting. It' s it' s a mixer formulation, an Indian pairing driver he' s also half he' s also Australian, with living in a lation, but we got along well all the time. So we said no ll be fun to be Tamate. He has a very different driving style as a personality he' s great fun, but super aggressive. So you know we always had to balance each other out. I had to be the calm one year. He had to be the aggressive one and but we made it work. I mean it was a little difficult in the beginning trying to find a balance between the two of US and are driving sales, because it' s almost like endurance racing, but in a sprint format, so you' ve got to drive flat out all the time. You can' t drive two three seconds off the pace, so we had to find that balance. It took us a little while, but we straight away. We won the first race on the in the second race. I think we' ve been a second of thin, so it was a great weekend to start. We started on a high and I can I think We just kept that going through the years and we' re still great friends till today I mean we have a Hokotan if they they had to document that would be more fun than lands. A romance hasn' t been covered by D ps, yet yeah yeah. So now, if you talk about Land Olets, let' s switch gears and talk about what we usually talk about. You know, let' s talk a little bit about. If that, that' s what people also do like to listen so yeah, so I think I kind of wanted to get your sense of you know. From a Leman' s perspective, I have my favorite tracts, but I have my favorite tracks for different reasons. You know because for me it' s what about how fancy the car looks in the track, but from perspective of resort. Why don' t you tell about you know what is probably your fevor track on the calendar? And why And what like? what about is? Naturally, you know attractive, I think, tracks like spars and got nobori all these historic circuits really, then I came about that. We built back then, which would just built for speed for that rush racing. You know like Xandrot to such a short circuit, Ilya Minute and then yeah something yeah, but if you just look at the circuit, the kind of corners it has when as a race driver when you' re watching it, you always put yourself in that seat and you just lit wow yeah, you can feel cufee the speed going through the corners. You feel that little bit, that element of danger is what you feel on these circuits that you, just, I guess, don' t feel on these new age. He that, like you, see like wooden change and Halesia all these Jalaly, it there' s a lot of elevation change and everything, but your banes are just so far away yeah. I guess, as they put it all close by, have like corners, which are nicely band, and things like that, which you don' t see so much right now. That would probably bring out an element of excitement in a driver because drivers love step by that there' s. So much talk about Orus and radial yeah. Oh my man, it' s a date, but I I but no driver would ever ever want you to take it away, because every time you go they dies. you want to conquer that mountain yeah. I mean totally anything like with Zandarood to the whole bank turn that they' ve got it. I think, like two, an three O Osomi. I was a right and I mean you go a bit late into that corner and your car is not a line to the bank and you' ve lost the whole corner to begin with, so you there' s so much planning going on in that split second to get into that Garner like portamour last year when it was introduced, it felt such a ruler, coster undulating cry, but everyone came back with like He. We love this strike. Why don' t We make this a main stream track? Yeah now, there' s a lot to it. With these circuits, it ' s it' s just the every other circuit. You know there' s more or less one line to a corner, but tracks like Potamos and war en porn many corners, there' s, no one line through some corners. You' ve got to find. There are a hundred good lines to that. Con Rice, you just going to find what suits you around...

...that common e in terms of like street circuit, which ones your favorite street circuit Mo, but it' s not an yeah. That' s interesting on! Actually that' s an interesting one. What us again? It ' s a historic track and it' s flowing the the insectis past you ' re, going up and down through that hill. I just know like I mean yeah there' s tracks like Monte Calo, which people have, but I think drivers also love Monticola, the Anos Phere, but you ask ARY Foma one driver and I' m pretty sure they otso same cow e e, because it' s got a mix of high speed. It' s got a mix of twisty corners. It seems wide in some places. It' s real mean. I don' t know what I take hers m. You can overtake yes and it' s and you just have to be on the ball all the time through that jam, you jus concentration for a second. So it' s in many ways. If my ca was built today, the race, the street coca. If it was proposed today, I' m guessing the. If I would even let it so yeah. so it' s one of those reat is er interesting. What you want to get you get from a driver' s perspective is like the whole rules. Change that' s going to come about. I, like so many teams, have already committed that they' re going to now start looking into two thousand and twenty two with budget caps in the whole new regulations that are coming in so and this year it sells the mid packs, but in so tighter so like what are your thoughts? And what are you are expectations going into two thousand and twenty two with everything that' s about to come, I mean, like I said I have not so much a technical kind of guy but from the driving aspect. I really do hope it next racing a lot. Those you can see right now that they can' t really follow each other close enough. Yes, they can' t really line up line up a proper over taking move. You know in formula on tracks, sometimes you got one in a follow on race. you have only two or three corners where you see them overtake Ye T. I remember when I raised, I resent sing a point, two thousand and eight on the same weekend in a single see the car, which is obviously a lot slower, and you were from La One. There was only one or two pones overtaking, but I found six corners where I could okay, so if Formula One can become that where every thing that has that you go to a Hungary- and you say: okay, they can only pass down the street, but if you suddenly start to see four places or five places when, as are overtaking that' ll, make it so much more exciting and then the new rules, at least it seems like you- can follow that much closer, and if you can, then you can pile on and overtake very easily between one conomine. So I' m hoping that happens, and even I think these modern cars are so long like. If you take a look at you know older guys, they would do much much shorter than these, so it was, I think, a lot easier to overtake with these shortages and with you know, the increasing lines on down force with an dynamics in general enough, and I think you' re a following is such a issue right now that weeds to infection. I guess it' s when you think I was complain about it as Le Follows A it' s horrible when you' re trying to follow A CA, and you have just no doubt force yeah, I ah, I think we' ve heard that your favorite driver currently on track is alone, so correct me from problem, but other than alone. So I wanted to know like from all these rookies and youngsters who are county on the great and there. Many currently you know whom do you see the most potential in overall and you think might become a future champion sometime, no, the like, but there' s, obviously a bunch of them I could imagine, would become future champions nor, as tussle would probably be my favorite among them. Okay, I guess also because I was watching a lot of junior fume racing when leptopus in junior formula just watching him go through. I think it was, I think, GP three when he raised it and then F to and he just a sheer dominance. He was just like at the time weirdly enough. He reminded me of Bankei because I am a race on the same weekend. At Banke was doing junior fame and he would run he was doing the fond of three euro series, which was an extremely tough championship, interesting interest, nine or ten. This was yeah and, and he would the second race was always a rivers bred and he' d always pass everybody and go up the front, and you had like top drivers on that. Did so and then watching the clerk do the same as life is. Se I mean else. I agree with you like in the sense that I remember this. this move that look. Let make it made an Alpha on Sochi on that that huge parabolic that they have read like the whole turn yeah. You went on the outside and over to a oover to now like wow, no and just say he would just and I' m just going back to his junior formula, even in fom La one he' s done some...

...amazing stuff, but yeah. I think he' s got immense potential, then, obviously that season with Russell Jars and album form. The two was a superb season to yeah. I heard a lot of yeah yeah I mean yeah. Young drivers coming from championship say that they all I they have a completely different approach now towards more sport than they did when say, Hanneton got into it. No, I think I think that needs us to. You know the right topic, as you said, that all these new drivers are argue now green differently in a way that es ports has become a lot important part these days than it cos before, and obviously like having track. Time is not always easy for people to gain. It requires a lot of money, and not just that, even in like these fon cars and everything you are not actually allowed to drive that car a lot in terms of practice, so yeah definitely assume racing has become a very important part. You know why don' t just talk about a little. You know how important some using is correctly and how much skills can you actually prons lot from simbing? actually racing yeah, I mean if you go back as far as gaming goes, for anyone who' s, not really in Tisias, even say, for example, if you play he for try play is playing free for two thousand and seven uses he firwen ee, anyone giving as kind a long long way. I remember playing ome on an Nennen tousand, yes is playstation and even on the computer. I remember and yeah you can' t imagine. That would be a simulation right. It was just an arcade game, a yeah yeah and but now the game developers have come so far. You' ve got professional games like I racing or factor and there' s a lot of other sim specific simulation specific. I wouldn' t call them games but simulators rea, the or formula on drivers and they' re able to replicate so much on to it right from your steering input to your breaking to your suspension, to the movements and with technology. So much has changed in the last seven eight years that they able to replicate that all into a simulator which, which is why it' s called a simulators almost like your aircraft simulator right, pile on in a simulator drivers are now having to do the same because of, like you said, costs it' s ridiculously expensive to take. A car now to restricket from La for from the tree is very, very expensive, so you, rather than just spend that time on the simulator, because it' s so at once and you get data you prostate data to the team, and then you can also actually translate it for your car, but it' s not always a hundred percent, but at least it' s still something the we like James Baldwin. He moved from eastport champion to now racing for British GT. Doing you Sol in is in journalist. I think I know what you' re talking about, though, probably a ISM and I' m pronouncing is James. Let' s call him James Again, esme from into actual cars. Do you Do you see this sort of also boosting the interest in Indian racing ers? You briefly touched upon it like in two thousand and twenty: that' s where you sort of also channeled you and Er mine channel or your planning, and you know promoting e ports. So how do you think it' s going to help not just like cities like China or Mon by our daily, but like even someone with a computer in knockbourn example? Yeah I mean if you' re dedicated enough Simiti at the end of the rays. Still in are in investment. We have drivers who come from Jim racing like Yan Marden Bro. He was one of the early examples we came through. The Nissan Academy did a lot of racing in GPS, PP and it and was extremely successful, dilema still very active. Then there' s James There' s a few Indian drivers actually who are coming out of Semerang right now. I know a few of them personally as well, who are doing extremely well in an Simran and when we put them in the race car which we' ve done already, they are just ridiculously fast. It' s crazy how they able to translate that into an actual race car, whether it' s a boat or a single seater. They just straight away on the ball right and they know they know so much. they have so much feel because, when you' re in a sin, you' re relying a lot on artificial feedback, but then an artificial feedback. but then, when you actually get into a real car, you...

...have real seat back and he able to translate that so much better into their driving, which is crazy. These days, I can' t imagine I never imagined you' d be able to do that, but that' s what these kids are doing and they are sometimes able to feel a bit more than what someone who' s just to ealred lar carting right Ye, interesting in test. It' s pretty cool because at some point you' ve got this guy who' s now off sim racing and then just starting his parting, but he' s already driven a form a tree. I think, is it because I think is it because in some racing, probably so in actually racing when you' re, actually using your bull body like senses, what' s going on and Bostion Sim bracing is pretty much your hands or your PA. You hand what You know. You basically concentrate all your attention to words. That kind of thing is that' s just my theory, but I guess that' s for something I find very tough as well a fully built purpose, built same as you have only your sensation in your hand, and it' s just like it' s a vibration right. It' s not a hundred percent accurate and a lot of these kids are actually doing it with that. So when they actually get the real feedback from your actual tires, you I usenge for steering then they' re able to do so much more with it. But you put me in a sin, and I just don' t know, what' s going on with it, the air point yeah, you can feel the fig on a spering think we will see a few next year itself. I can tell you I spoke to one guy yesterday and I know he' s really really quick and you ' ll see him next year. Our Championship, awesome and you' ll be amazed at how quick he is an e and his story will be big, very excited for that yeah. Looking forward to that, in terms of the ladder that we spoke about like in actual car, is there, is there a rough structure to someone in our audience who wants to get into liking or e sports? Well, I mean the ports apart from the programs that we do. Obviously you can just do it from your home, which makes it quite easy. All you have to do is purchase a bit of ex equipment. It' s not very cheap, but I mean, if you can afford it, go ahead. Do it there' s a lot of games out there that are very, very good when it comes to replicating your life racing, okay and it at the end of the day. it is a lot of money save compared to your actual parting. In Your anses wore actually racing. You can sit at home and race on any race track in the world really in Jedging, though your near as Woka, you can almost raise in any car in the world instead of just raising a book up, you know, so it gives you all that from the comfort of your home, it teaches you all the basics. It' s then you don' t have to go to Raclan race, track and waste time understanding. What a racing line is understanding. The mechanics of a car can do so much of that just sitting at home now so yeah. I think for anyone, who' s even remotely thinking about some racing just jump into it. Do it and you' ll stay to no strait away. You know whether you want to ray so you want to be a rastriven or not, or you just want to sit at home and do it. I know a lot of guys who are like I don' t race. I just want to sit at Ome and drive my sin and be world same racing champion for point of reminded, I think that' s an we had folks. This was an amazing conversation with a that. The I m sure he' s shared way too many insights. You know what we' ll have our new host close out for e all with his fiting torts on Fri or anything he wants to share with you also a ther. They take it away and then we' ll close after after your parts. Thanks, I mean we, it' s been great to be on the show, and I hope everybody listening has actually managed to take something away from this something to learn, and we want to see all at at our series next year, a march from the original from the four and the irs you want to get in touch with US easy to get in touch with us. Well, happily, run you through the process and on Moderor, but now you know there' s a clear ladder. you know your steps, you know what to do and we' ll find our next camlan driver. So awesome forks find all these details in our show notes and until the next episode this is a fun fan fiction signing off, but by a t.

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