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Episode 34 · 6 months ago

Fireside Chat w/ Mark Sutton

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Lets start the Season 2 of F1 Fanfiction with a banger! We present to you a very interesting Fireside chat that we can with none other than the world renowed F1 photographer Mark Sutton!

Mark has had an illustrous career of 20+ years as a F1 photographer. If you are an F1 fan it is 100% guaranteed that you have atleast seen 1 photograph clicke by mark. From lengendary photos like the Flying Finn under his belt, mark has a fun chat with us where we discuss about his life, his career and ofcourse a lot of banter. 

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You know, you listen, you watch the you watch that final race in Abu Dhabi. Can hear the crowd? Yeah, yeah, another yea last time, I think whether yes, not crushing the yeah, the incidently said yes. Folks, what are you hearing right now? is as formal as it gets on this show. This episode, after the Intro Rolls Out, is the best amount of fun we've ever had, the most unplugged we've ever been, the most candid and Banterful we've ever been. This is the best season two opener that we could have asked for. Once the intro rolls it's free. Will Free Roll into a beautiful side of fone with a special guest that you will find out soon into the episode or you've read it on the thumb nail already. We are your host. I am a gosh and I'm sadden, and let's get into it. Yes, so, I was it the the Indian Grown Prix. The first year. I think it was a two thousand and eleven. Yeah, eleven things. Yeah, so I think it was our the first year or the second year. He said, he said, yeah, just do you want to come to the afterparty right, and I said yeah, okay, I said WHO's playing? He said I was. Lady Garkar said Wow, yeah, we spent a lot of money bringing it to debt delly, to the grand prixs. You can come as my guest. The said how many? How many passage you want? I said, Oh, have you got six? He said yeah, no problems. I went to steal on my work colleagues. This is this is when it was sunds and I asked him, would you like to come to the concert? WHO WENT? None of them went. Yes, yea, said, and I was just right. So I ended up inviting some of my colleagues and they took me there. They they took me home afterwards because I's been drunk. The Guy said to me, so bring your camera, so I was able to take pictures right at the front of my camera as well, professional picture, and she was amazing, absolutely amazing. But it's like a private concer, like five people. I think they spent a million dollars. Some crazy man earl. Yeah, yeah, so that was a great that's a great opportunity. You can't miss those things. Like those pictures were all over the world afterwards. So yeah, those sort of opportunities and the like I was saying before we talked about princes. I was on stage with prints in this was twozero. I think this was two thousand and eleven or twelve. I think I've been eleven. And we gone to the Concerte some responds a bit, some of the carbon fiber braceing and we gone to the front. We're at the front and we're having a just having a nice drink and chilling to the music and and then print said, does anybody want to come on stage? And I was like, shocks, a pirate people on and said I said, did he really just say that? That's you got remember there's like thousands of people even at the front. And then and we literally just dropped off and then jumped over the barrier and we're at the front. Were on stage, were literally in front of him and I didn't believe it. It was about the IPHONE. I think it was the iphone three, and that point is like I phone three or four, I can remember. Anyway, shot some video, I did some stills. We're on there for about three songs. Dance as ares and I kept getting almost taking pictures and videos. Kept getting all these messages coming through. What the hell are you doing on stage? What who's that? Well, why are you? It's like it was so funny that he was. And then there was like thirty Fivezero people at the concert. It was crazy, but what a what a moment and experience because you, I mean, obviously he passed away later on. Just to have been there, but the Thea, the sad thing wasn't my one guy will actually probably kill me if you knows the story anyway, but it was we had an editor. So the reason I could leave a we had an editor who did all the editing of the pictures and we just give him our car, give him our cards and he do all the editing the pictures, send them back the officer. We could carry on working and he was the biggest prince fan ever and when he found out I was on stage, you was he was still working on the coquet chap. I was on come to the constantly. Anyway. Yeah, so, yeah, those those little moments you stranger forever, you know, and that it was was. That's the probably the two biggest. I set a part moment, but certainly, yeah, great, crazy in my career that you got stage and then you did that concert with with our guard. Yeah, pretty amazing and I'd imagine how that canncition went with their where do you'd be like hey, where did you do? Or the weekend Mike and League anohing might tell just some of the stage with brains and we I don't know what the red did it every another concert. I went to a concert here in north when...

I was to live in Northampton and it was Alexandro Neil. I don't know you've heard of him. He was a guy that was so round the S is. He was a black singer, sort of sound, quite a lot sole and beautiful music. I loved his songs and he came to Northampton and we went as a Christmas party to Northampton for our for at works do and he said come on stage, but he hadn't agreed it with the management and like obviously agreed. Dangerous before you could literally fall down the stage, but we were. We were up there with Alexandro Neal and he was he's amazing guy. I mean he's now in he's fifty's, late fifty and he's but great singer. Wow, if you ever get chance to see him, he still alive. Alexandro Neal, surely the meek? Yeah, he's a great, great singer. Bit like Tony Hadley. Tony Hardley from spand our valley was my sort of era. At my my era was the S. really, I was a bit of a new romantic in the bit of a good yea. I was a DJ the lower really. Yeah, well, it was still vinyl. Yeah, I've still got my vinyl collection. Actually, I've still got on my twelve had a lot of twelve inch singles and there quite special to me. You know, they need a lot. I've got a lot of limited edition twelve inch singles that collected in the S and yeah, it disappeared in the s when the seeds back. Now, though, goes with them. Yeah, it's hanging back. I haven't bought any because that I'm still waiting to buy a house. I'm looking to buy a house very so this one's going. I've got actually Gary. Well, you have a con with it, with a CD player and it's got sleepy, but it's got it's got a rack system, it's got the full deck. He's got, it's got. It's even got cassette players, doubles. Yeah, player in the it's an old status healing none. Yeah, it's brilliant, Pioneer, classic, classic. So yeah, we're diversifying from that, from what the key thing is. I guess that know, this is a this is this is good. I've been around a long time, obviously, from the I mean my first is it just a start you off really? I mean I started my brother. My brother was a keen amateur my dad, my dad, was an amateur as well, taking photos to some park where we used to live in Manchester. It's in and it's a very famous track. It had had a race called the Gold Cup which a lot of on the one drivers used to go to in the S and s and Jim Clark and Graham Hill used to go there and compete. And then my dad used to take me to the races when I was a young boy. My Mum was a nurse and my dad used to get literally kicked out the house. Don't take the kids away for the week, I don't want to see what again. I used to come back, but yes, that was my thing really. So I got into motor sport really from them, buying little model cars, you know, in the little shop and then racing along the ground. And then when I got older, I my brother started to take pictures when he was eighteen at the local track and then I sort of saw him doing that. I've actually got one shot from one where I've got center and sent as with his former form car and I'm in the background. So there's that, that sort of history. And then I started taking pictures professionally. That was our sixteen in that photo. And then when I was eighteen, because you can't really can't take pictures legally till you're eighteen front of as you know. So I took my first ever race taking photos. Was alten part because the local Friday a brother said come down, just go out the back. I mean nothing will happen. Go out the back and take some pictures, just get get some experience. Yeah, I was still at college that point. Do Photography and then leave it on our center and Brundle crashed in front of me. So the same move, but you didn't like he did in Suzuka. He went down the inside. He went down the inside of Brundle Martin be under these. Your comment dated. It's just going to see a fuse. Very rude. Venus of Ruanda lands and a again, just like different the marts. They went down the east bide and then Senna landed on top of Brundon's car literally on top of his head almost. I mean that's without the halo. Yeah, and if you look a pictures in black, black and white, and I've got them side by side. So, but I didn't have a camera with a motor drunk. Yes, I take the picture and then wind it on. Yeah, the next train, so in when it was those days, and then you go back and process the black and white and then you do so. But they landed on top of each other and I've got the shot afterwards of the car on top of the car with Brundle and center just looking round the cars. And that was a great moment. It was. I mean that was the start of my career. You got imagine that taking those photos being not being out the back of the circus my Braider, and nothing will ever happened. And those pictures are still used all over the well, I mean Martin still there, isn't it? Yeah, in covering for yeah, so it's great to have. Obviously Aton's not there anymore, but we know that the story of that. But...

...eighty three, that was so. Then eighty four I worked in a studio in Manchester doing massive room set. So I work learning about lighting, learn about decorating and about learning about everything really in life. And then and then eighty five I joined my brother. We set up sudden photographing. That was the first name. And then from then it just grew really, I mean it. I started doing National Motor Sports, so formula, the British touring cars. That a former three thousand Formula Ford, and then I started to La Mourns and did la man's in eighty five. So I did eighty five to ninety five. In Lamms, I did ten years of Lamon's, but my big break came in ninety two. So I've done six years of s national racing, earning my apprenticeship, learning how to take pictures, learning out of the person, learning how to talk to people. And then really it was my big breaking ninety two we got a contract with a Japanese magazine where we had to provide them with the film. So still filmy. I give them the films and then they sent them back to Japan. They produced the magazine on the Wednesday after the groand preach is quite revolution. The films when after practice, then the films went back after the race. Current interesting sire courier, back to Japan, pick the pictures, lay them out, produce the magazine on a Wednesday and he was called F one monk. So it was not a weekly magazine. Its laby twos because of the group free. So yeah, so we had one film for the Japanese magazine and then one film for Sutton. So we had one for each. So it was difficult to decide when. Obviously, generally when you ht obviously when he's shooting the start or main race, you've got yeah, and that ends to be your main pictures. So when you have film, it was very difficult to choose and you know you'd picked. If it was the incident, you'd probably give it to the magazine you knew you're going to get back. But obviously there was you know, we got all those films back, Evenchley, about five years later. But yeah, I mean there's lots of images in there that were probably great for the arc but they only saw their a, you know, the Day of light and in that magazine. But Yeah, and then obviously ninety three I took the famous picture of the Flying Lander. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, and that was just a bit of look but also being in the right place at the right time there was actually ten of my colleagues with men and I was the only one to get the picture and it shot at one hundred and twenty five of a second, really slow speed, but I was doing a pan shot against the against the fence, and I didn't refocus, just kept a thing on the button, got about four frames and yeah, and the story goes then the films processed overnight. We got it back in the morning and they were looking on the light box in the morning at the in the circuit and my brother went wow, easy, it's high in the air whatever, you know, and it wasn't that high. He was spectacular. Yeah, hinge sharp and when you shoot to that speed you never shore whether the first, yeah, they the second, third one might be shot. It could be the one where he's going in here. It could on where he's in there or where he's going here, and it was luckily the one where he's highest point. And I think I then this was before our focus right, so you had to as well. He was order focused by get use it for this shot because I was doing a pan shot against the fence and the curb and actually, if you look in aught too, course that year my pictures are on the same page to two pictures, one on either page, and there's the pan shot of what I was doing on one side and then there's the the flying thin on the other. So it's sort of proves a point. Really. I just got some people that have come back. You mind closed the door for me? Guys, you mind closing the door, just doing anything to you? Thank you, guys. So, yeah, it was some it was a great moment. And No, no, could you shut this door for the thank you. Yes, thank you. So, yeah, it's a great moment. We then we then what happened with them was we the lab that are just brought the films. They went out printed free, big print here. There's been locked out. That's what it is. Let's locked out that he's gone back. We'll try and close. I think you want to go out anyway. So yeah, then they printed through things. So the three prints came back. I said the LAD can have one. Yeah, but when they all came back, they came back together and I gave I gave a showed Mica went over straight away to show me and he's in and it came over and said we wondered why there was a blip on the telemetry lacking futs yeah, there's a blip on the climateary. We didn't see anything on Teamva and now your picture proves that there were. There was a blip. The reason why was he went over the curb and I actually have found out later when he landed he damaged the nose when he lands on the ground. I didn't know that, but I met Mica about three or four years ago in Japan. When we did that, the twenty five Ursary said Oh, yeah, damage the front wing, and when they got back all they cared about was the front wing. I said where? You were about six foot in the air. So, yeah, your picture, and then after that he signed it, the final thing. So then he became literally the flying being. Yeah,...

...yeah, and gave one to the lab, I gave one to Mika and I've still got the ninety three one signed by him. And the funny thing was about one year later that picture came up in an advertising not an advertising campaign, but an advertising like a, like A. Like you do a like A. I think of the work, I think of the would. So when you do, when you send a brief out to the photographers today and from an agency, they they're going to put a load of picture together of what they want and what they'd included was my shot, the flying thing. So they wanted the photographers to repeat high picture. Interesting, which I thought they ain't gonna happen exactly like that, exactly, you know. But those moments nobody else got. The other tenpers look round at each other. I didn't say anything at that particular point. I knew I wasn't even sure I got it. So yeah, and there's one pass. There's one guy still speak to called Terry Griffin's an American photographer lives in San Francisco, and we see he was next to me. Actually, I didn't know and he said Yeah, my you got it. It was quite funny. And then obviously Sutton's got sold in two thousand and seventeen to motor sport now and I look through the archive and lat do actually have a frame of the same shot, but they have it from above and it means nothing from a pub really because, yeah, well, you see, it's me. Did you see the clothing in the air? But it's not got the high right. So it's like I think we ralic think about rally rally photomers a shot them higher. You wouldn't get that height. Yeah, it will be as low down as possible. And we were behind some advertising, a concrete block, and we were literally quite low. And then obviously the essence of the height is because we were quite low and also because we were, you know, behind a concrete wall. But yeah, that's probably one of my famous shot. I was going to change the background back to us, all the photographers, and nearly all are here. This is this is the background. Here is her red ninety seven, when you had that famous moment with I didn't capture it, by the wasn't in the right place. That's the thing about being a photographer. You never captured really no, when you're experience, your experience does help being in the right place at the right time, but it's also about how in the right lens of right. Yeah, there's lots of things to think about, but the experience does help. I mean having thirty years of experience like I've got. You know, a lot of these guys that you see here on this picture they've gone. There's there's one still there at the front, and that's me. I'm just like, if you look below my search shoulder, yeah, that that's that's me. There with a dark hair, not gray. You guys, Fritz Fan elder, he still going, second row up, second from the end. He's still going. He's the can and ambassador. Now. Yeah, there's not I'd say there's probably about three or four photographers out this whole of them well, still go. She's incredible if you think about how some of them are sadly passed. Yeah, some of them moved on to do weddings. Some of them moved on. One guy in particular, there's a Japanese guy at the front, three, three along. They work. Yeah, or he works for the Japanese driver. You caname. He definitely know that. What's his name? I I know whom you're talking about. I just want to Japanese by comma. I can't remember his name. I've just I've gone a mind blong. He drove for Jordan as well, so I know him quite well, but I can't remember his name. I'd soon's going to my brain. But yeah, he works for him now in Indie car. So yeah, there's a there's a few guys might still comes to a bottle of races. No, don't worry, man, you won the indy five hundred. I can't remembers. They community. I know him. You're not about, but I don't remember his name race now and if it's hi, they can know. Yeah, no, it's not. Noda. Just start was thinking that it's not. Anyways, it comes to Sarko, the KUMASAR. Yeah, something Sarto. You have such an amazing set stone, if for the whole episolread, I mean I like, I'm just all mind blown because you said this up so well for us. You carry on from if you carry on the flying thin, then you go to you go to certain the certain images and moments where, out the different years, you know, like I mean even from the last year, from with with with Lewis and with Lewis and Max. Right, you weren't always in the right place. I guess the right place would have been, you know, the old first Corner Sto, sorry, cops, cops, at Silverstone. If you'd have been there, you know that's that would the crash. But because the circuits change, you don't go there anymore. It's not really a place where there's overtakes or crashes. But then the big crash of Max and the Lewis. You know that. We we...

...act. Somebody offered me the photos from from the crowd today. Oh yeah, someone, someone shot him. So I ended up buying like four frames of they've got one shot. I posted it today. I'm instagram. I don't know, I didn't take it. It's within the same selection I bought. I bought those from from somebody in the crowd, you know, but most times you tend to be not in the right place or someone from the agency will get it. We've got six photographers at every Grand Prix, so they we're going to get something. You'd hope. I was, I guess in the French grown. Hurry, guess the barrain grown Prett this is quite a few races where I was in the right place, but therefore the overtake. I think the best one probably was the French Grand Prix, whether really close at the end. Oh yeah, no, yeah, the last lat those sort of moments. And then for Abu Dabby, I was actually in a helicopter, really believe what our for the whole race, so I had no idea. What's going on? Wow, absolutely, I there a medication. What this is interesting because we really have a section about this that we want to ask you about what happened and we we s some questions you want? No, no, I'm just going on. Far Away. No, Far Away is you love. Got It right, then let's do this. Let's just sort of like formally introduced us. Quick Fire. Yeah, and no on. Let's let's formally introduce ourselves. Get get our audience into the groove. Hey, folks, this has been one of the best firesight starts that you've heard if you've been following us for the whole ear now. No introductions. You've yeah, you've heard the whole Umpio. Today we Formula One whatsoever. This is a fun one. We have F fun Fan Fiction. This is a Banger of a start to fireside series for season two. There's no introduction required. We've got mark suit on as our host number three on today's episode. Thank you, mark. Guys, Hey, hey, we don't see a face, but hello, hello, Sela. As it going? Yeah, your host, I am a gosh and I'm Sunn and let's box up them. Let's go. So, mark, before before we begin, hundred some tea part room and almost fourth and almost a four decade career into into into being. So this is just mind bloggling numbers out there. Yeah, nearly forty years to be honest, or two years, because my first race was ninety three. So yeah, my first Grand Prix was ninety four, but my first ever race was ninety three, as we said, with the center brundle crush. But yeah, so far. Of what was the first question? I missed it. So No, no, there wasn't. There wasn't one. But all right, let's let's start with the one at least. Yeah, and I have loved or the last season someone asked Louis on like other Fridays of the throws days fan meet, of that the these guys do. So the question is, how are you, might Su done? How are things with you? How are things going? You recently recovered from coward. How are you? I didn't have any symptoms at all. I mean it literally my girlfriend's kids caught it at school and then my girlfriend obviously caught it as well, and I was feeding leave. Don't isolated, that was just leaving the food outside, and eventually I did catch it. I didn't feel but the sore throat, a bit of a headache and that was it really, and not too bad. I've looked at the double vaccine and I've got the boost, so I was very lucky and I did my I did eight days of isolated, some some days, right days of isolation and then came out because I too two negative tests for them. I feel really good. I don't feel any after symptoms and I'm ready for the season. My cameras are all in a Nikon for cleaning and checking and the be back next week. And then then, and then the season sort of starts quite soon. I've got a couple of film days coming up with some of the team, so I get to see the cars, but those did Midge is obviously off for the team, so they'll release them themselves. So yeah, so we'll see what's going on. But and then obviously head to Barcelona at the end of the month. That's the first real running of all the cars together. So me three days twenty three of February, and then you can wish me a happy birthday because my birthday's on the twenty four. Early working on my birthday. That's amazing. I give you the Trivia. Who Else Birthday is on the twenty four? Twenty four four times, four times world champion for a read, Reddel no, it's quae. He's French. Oh He's French. Wis, yeah, yeah, yes, same date, and also one of the formal one driver, one another. He's from Spain, along some stain. Drove Fromclaren Wanta, drove arrows. He drove for who else? He's Spanish, Pedro the Larrond Wow. Yeah, and...

...then there's all that. One of the famous guy, and he he was that, he was the designer. Well, he was the one that owned this company. I'm doing the computer on my phones around anymore. Yeah, he invented the IPHONE, invented apple. Yeah, so they go to three, three famous, from mark to fact, I think. One driver. I think you had been stint for Greek then, wasn't it? Yeah, I could have been a driver as well, but that was actually one of my questions. And since you mentioned it, and let me ask that, because it's clear that you're, you know, a big fan of wood sport and you are a passionate abordered. So was it ever an option, like, did you ever think about becoming an it was never option really. It was always going to be that was a photographer, because you need you need to start at a very early age, sort of eight, maybe even younger, maybe six to eight years old. You've got to start in junior cards you look at the Formula One drivers that and their kids are grobing up. So like Robin, Robin Ken and now he's yeah and age wearing junior parting. You look at all the drivers have come through. They started at a very young age. I was already too old, you know, to be honest. Actually it's quite funny because my son, my son, became a swimmer but he started at Zen. So I think even he he got penalized for starting too late. So just a great idea. He became he did. He swam in the nationals in England, he was top twenty in the UK, but he just didn't start early enough. So actually starting at six to eight years old. I wasn't going down that career path. So you need to have that input for your family or your wealthy Jen's to be the wealthy parents she but honestly, it's true. You look at Lando Norrish, you look at George Russell, theyre very well LARN's I don't think that was the same with with Lewis. His father was sidling with money, he was using old tires, he was using old engine, he was at a struggle, but he was found by Mercedes, you know, and he was looking have that break. So a lot of drivers either have the look and they have the skill and they make it or its tends to be as money behind them, it's from the family. But I wasn't going that path. You know, I decided very early on I was never going to be a dropper. I was just I was interested in the sport and I my actual hero was Emerson Fitz upalding, mm wow, from the centers thing. Oh, yeah, and I've met him. Oh, I've met Emerson quite a few times and he didn't know and I told him and yeah, it's a night. Really Nice Guy always signs with a number seven leave on it, which is quite funny because make a Hackn and was number seven the wels. They got great. Yeah, interesting and yeah. So, yeah, my career was my going more photography and my dad was too, keen amateur. You know, we took a lot of pictures. He's got a beautiful picture of Mike Hawthorne and Nineteen Pig yes, and he took the old and parks a beautiful picture. But he was just a keen amash and it was drivers were more accessible back in the early day to days. Yeah, I mean you look at some of the stories where people were actually started. Pretend to remember this story of there's a guy that we bought the archive called David fipps, and he he just wore a wore like a like a little lanyon, and became part of a team. I mean it literally no one even checked or new. You know. Now, obviously security. We have a specially Hass to formal one pass that we where you have to go for a s I gave lots must yeah, but in the old days you could easily mix in with the team if you have, if you had thenounced to do it, or though the guy just pleasy make you can leave me from a and he became a photographer and he was a photo journalist. But now it's mainly photographers. But covid, covid has destroyed a little bit of you know, it's very restricted now. Hopefully this year will be more open. Yeah, lots of fun. Yeah, I mean the last races of a last proved it. You know, America we had three hundred fifty thousands and it would sub yeah, Mexic row was great, Brazil amazing. I mean even in Saudi, you know, there wasn't many fans in Saudi, but we had a great crowd Abu Dhabi, you know, again full crowd. It was an amazing game to the season with all those fans back, you know, and you could you could hear the emotion from the fans. That was the great thing and that you know, you list you watch the you watch that final race in a bug. You can hear the yeah, yeah, screaming the last ticking where. Yes, sorry, not crashy, it's incident. Yes, the incident Mike for well, well, we'll see what happens with the investigation of its yeah, I can't comment too much hea that one, but...

I landed, came down and then try to get into it all to find out what's happening, but also then to actually go into all the problems. Obviously we had all the people appealing and all the stewards and we had to wait there till about eleven o'clock in the whole take Max celebrating and but it was it was great to stay and even though there was only about fifteen to twenty foot of his left, there's a lot of them got flights. Hm, we always have this thing when the bendlift the driver up on the shoulders. There's always a bit of a fight between or the not. Fine, it's what they call the show the elbows. All these guys here that are in the PIC, they're all fighting. It's the same each, same people. We work with them all. You. HMM. We have a bit of a bum what they call a bum fight, and it's all a bit shoulders holders at dawn are coming out, you know, and anyone's elbowing. We're in trying to get the best picture and the trying to get Max at the front. It's a linkish the champagne or whatever they're trying to get. I got some nice pictures, man, at the end of the day it's just the buzz, the buzz of it. Yeah, honey, yeah, I've got back to the button and going back before that to sender and shoe maker and the you know, not the fight, but the the battles we had with all little with a great it's all good fun. Most of those guys, excuse me, still around over, yeah, still around. So, yeah, I've progressed on a bit again. What was it what we were talking about? Oh, our God, is good. Yeah, so, yeah, and then even even my son, my son started to work for the same company I did do in social media, because so should. Social Media's become a huge thing and you know, I just see the platforms growing and growing. And he I took him to he probably won't likely for this, but I took him too a car race at Milton keys, of a bit of a run, and he literally came out, came out the out the pits and went straight into the tire wall. I been to really and you'll hate me for saying Huh, and I knew at that point it wasn't going to be a very good driver. But he did pass his test at seventeen like that is first off, right. When I took my test, I didn't have to take a you have to take a written exime now in the UK. When I did, it was no written example. He failed these written a few times and eventually passed. And because, yeah, so, yeah, so, because you mentioned this one. I want to go bit like on a family. Are Read this point, which is well, me tell me about the Nikker man, because you mentioned your father, you mentioned your brother and now you're mentioning your son. And what we've read on hood is there's this famous nickel mad in your family which has been handed down through through your father. Do your brother and then he gave it to you. So where does that ID right now? Now? It wasn't. Wasn't a nickome at. That was. That was the the Pentax. Okay, no, yeah, batiker, it was. Okay, so that the pictures I took, the pictures I took with the center of Bundle that taken the Batika. It was. It was. It was an old, very old camera. And then we went dicolm very basic nick con kit and then we got some Nice Nick on K and then eventually, well, what happened was cannon did a partnership with William. Remember it was on the back train radio. Was a big, Yep, huge sponsorship deal. But what they started to do was bring a bus to the race is that wrought all the kit that you couldn't barn and also did a service thing. They did service the canket for you. So a lot of people change because of that input from them, from the Karmat camera man of fact. So we change then to cannon and it was a great relationship for about twenty five years. And then what happened was we had an agent in Japan who said that Nick Connor looking to get into formal warn and they they're avenue. They don't want to sponsorship any great but that maybe they're interested in making you an ambassador and giving the kit moving you across from from cannon to nick but also they want input. They want to see how they can improve the cameras, how they can improve the relationships with the photographers, how they can prove their servicing, and also to show what the percentage is. They wanted to know how many cannon photographers are, how many Nikon becomes each race, because in each country fluctuates, it goes up and down. You understand, because in your in Europe it can be like in Italy's huge for Nick on, small for cannon. In France it's all the way around. So different countries, it changes. In America, like you an example in a Ka, nick on issue, but cannon is smaller. So and then you go to the Olympics it's a lot different as well. So you have all these things that they wanted us to be ambassadors. So we moved across. They were also paying us to be ambassadors. They were giving us kit every year, so we couldn't really refuse that that deal and I've still worked with NIC ON. Now you know, in Nick on UK and Nick on Europe, and I don't deal with N on Japan anymore, but my relationship with nic on UK is is amazing. You know, I'm going to be testing in Barcelona, Y, testing...

...the news Z nine. Now we're realistic us. Yes, the amazing test that camera in those beautiful light conditions, you know, the early morning as sunrise and its graces the evening. Yeah, to see how they work. So and we'll hopefully we'll have access to the pits and access to go and shoot the drivers getting in the cars and well, hopefully one of everything in Barcelona. Will have to see. We don't know yet because, yeah, it's all very vague at the moment. Obvious at the end of the season it was all open. But we're going. We've had the omnichrome virus and we don't know what's how it how it is in Spain. We don't know what the teams are going to want in terms of photographers. So Bar rain, I think, will be open because they have strict testing facilities in Bar rain. As soon as your land you have to be tested with a you need the Ray, seems, but Spain maybe is a bit more lenient. But what's The seas bins change their rules onto recently. Think they they came murder the fact that you don't need a Vac seen anymore or a DPC had actually said you're need a heart a board done Mus be are? Yeah, England's the same. It's today, today or yesterday. We change the rules. We don't need anymore. That's why I'm not wearing yeah, I don't know. I'm just as completely changed. Obviously. Scotland. Yeah, Wales and island a different rules. They they can. They can enforce different rules, even though the part of United Kingdom that they have different rules and they just relax. There's a little bit. They're not gone fully out like we are. I mean to be honest. We're all vaccinated now in the UK. So really in the simpt yeah, I think I'm public transport, you still need to wear the mask and obviously flying, flying you have to wear masks in certainly, yes, pause are the stores themselves. They can have a policy of wearing mass that's that's down to them completely. So you still have to have masks with you just in case. Generally it's going to be a lot more open. So I'm hoping fingers crossed that will have a full you can with fans, fans we need. Yes, really, I love Australia and the fan. Yeah, fans are so fanatical, you know, going to Japan again and Singapore and these races that we haven't been to for a long time. We need we need to go back to those races that we missed two years. Yeah, certainly, I think one one. Since we're on the topic of Cordrad, I kind of wanted to get this questions. What has been your experience? I mean everybody's kind of suffered in their good weird during the last few years, of course, but traveling, going from reals to years and, you know, kind of being a photographer of whole one's experience being, you know, dealing with good and we've been very lucky, and we only we've been very lucky though we're. We've almost been like, hate to say it, will we've almost been like Novak Doctor Bent, although we got kicked out of here without special exemptions. You know, most countries have been very welcoming to the media. You know, we've got to be very thankful to the FIA and Formula One is they eventually decided to have a championship. They invited team photographers bank. So we are company as a whole works for four team. So we allowed for photographers to work within the team and then fours to work outside channel. That's what they decided, just to bring in the in the evening. And then also people like agencies, so like royters ape. The thing about five agencies were also invited. So you've got to consider that was only twenty five photographer raid. So wow, no, no, no, race by race passes, only permanent as as well. So ten working in the teams, ten only on the our. That's it. We have no fans. So we were very lucky and they were very scared. I mean, you've got to remember they didn't have the didn't really know one was something. We got tested almost every day. Test before you go this. And then, obviously, when the vaccines came in, we have to have the band scenes as part of the rules and that became stricter in certain countries and also each country was so different. And then all the Aplework we needed to print out, you know, and obvious to get back to the UK we had to fill a loca to form a test on the day to day as lots of things that people don't realize what we had to do right. It's part of our job and we're really I think we have to say thanks to the FIA and thanks to Formula One, because we wouldn't have had a job. I'm I know, even have a job, even though so long. You know, it's true, truth enough to obviously I've a lot of job working for a company and at work for Motor Sport Network. Know, you've got to be thankful that we work for those team, those sponsors and and obviously at the end of it, by Abu Dhabi we saw probably about fifty photographers in formal one, a lot more journalists and a bit more openness and completely the paddle open. PID playing still restricted to about twenty twenty five people. Pit Wall was back to normal. Ten photographers on the pit wall and then generally around the track, you could go anywhere you wanted. So it was restricted. We had to wear the...

...masks even around the circuit, which, yeah, honest, is a bit and actually I was walking around the track in where was it as walking around the track in Saudi I think it was Saudi Arabia, and Michael Mass was coming towards me and he said them he said, mark, why you wearing masks so well, I thought we had to wear it as part of the rules. He said, no, you don't need masks outside or on the track rights. That is that the facts math. Michael now went, yes, there's a right the ext I know anything anymore. It from Michael Ass maybe maybe you know he's there next year, but that's after that. I didn't wear. On that topic, I want to ask something that we've also covered in a few of our episodes, is, if it's only allowed at those places, why Istre to ARD wearing his mask in the guy? That's his rule. That's their rulers and many, but also also Christian Horn. Yeah, yeah, maskets all coming into your circuit. And well, I think he did. Maybe in the beginning his rule was that he didn't. He didn't need didn't need any. Didn't think he was going to have a cat fun one. I court. I mean like the driver. I could be like one of the time. I didn't want to catch you, but it I think it's probably better to catch it catch it off seems again the capture. So yeah, I think it's probably just a get it good and get it out the way. My my you know my my comping of the word. Now, my, yeah, my, My, think I can't. So worries about it eventually. Yeah, so I've got the best. Yeah, I can't. That way the next one. So, yeah, speaking, speaking thick, speaking of my, speaking of what we get on the right, like I want. I want to know. So logistically, I feel like he bodies. I'm somebodies. It came to me. Okay, so you what's up? Can you eventually anybody? You've run out of anybody's here? We must be. So to the Astro Zeneca, to Astro Zennaca, backs, then than the fires, that and and then covid back down covid antibodies. I got. I got everything. I probably at ninety nine points. You, okay, far away. But speaking of logistics, they look at forgot. This is going to be a nightmare, because I saw wonderfully Kim Illiam's video where he says he's baggling someone, someone like group. Was that? Yaow me to tell you the truth. Go ahead, go ahead, your stays. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy, but he's a very wealthy gun, so he'd be basically he's coming to Formula One. He's not really got he's not coming the hard one, he's coming easy. You've got to remember that I did six years of doing all the lower forms learning my career. You know, I start the bottom for nothing. DOTOR know people? I didn't buy my way in. She's what he's done. I'm not dishing the guy in anyway. If you've got money, why not? He's a multimillionaire. He's a multimillion poire. Seen him voice glass everywhere. We none of none of the photographer's fly. Yeah, I mean someone's going to pay us to do it, will do it. He's using his money, you makes from his company and one Formula One. So he's taking he's taking, you know, business away from people, from people that have to the people that its former one is their life, formally one is there great formal one of their business, you know, and he's taking possible clients away from in the F we don't like what he's going to do. He does his social media, which is fine, and that's the way he's playing at the moment, but we don't know where he's going to go he starts taking clients from people and he's paid his way in. It's not really right, is it? Doesn't it doesn't feel right. Look, he's a nice guy. He's also spent a year away from Australia last year. I feel sorry for him. Yeah, yeah, I sign and he's wife came out. His wife came out to join him for a couple of weeks or about a month, and she had to call ut seem, you know, quarantine. Obviously, a lot of countries he had to keep going getting these visa because he was a straighthearted he was kicked out of a few countries because he had to go to another country to to Redo the comebacks of it. I mean, look, he was staying in Nice hotels, he's staying in First Class, he's living the life, you know, all on his own. Great and most people are. The freelancers have to pay for themselves. The feelings pay for all the flights, the higher cars, their accommodation, you know, and that's it's I felt sorry for them with I'm a staffers are a grade. My company pull spoken things and I don't fly first once. I don't like business or even economy. Plus, I traveled the colony own, you know, and I paid for everything. My cameras...

...are paid for from Sutton Day and obviously I've upgraded my cameras. Are got the D six now and a few of the lenses, but I haven't spent fortune on kid because because things are times. You know, you may think that we're only lots of money, and we, I mean the company, turns over a good amount of money, but we have things to pay for, like what is in your good let's get into the like what's in your kid and they're the kids. Yeah, well, it's all in for servicings. That can show you. That's fine. Time just will be treparing every lens. Need to Baring Gli if it's been hammered over here. We used to have servicing every race where they cleaned it and the check it will. We don't have anything great, so we have to get it either midseason or the NBYERE. So I've got the first Lens I'll start with. It is a fish on not so it's like my height curved a ten point five millimeter. So it's a really wide Lens, but fishes. I. So it curved everything. It's not for everybody and it's not it's not a lens you use all the time. So and then we go on to a four team. So White Super Wide Angle one fourteen, two hundred and twenty four millimeters. Zoom. F two point eight. That's a Beautiful Lens, really beautiful, and I use that in Monaco a lot because really close here it distorts the car a little bit, but it doesn't, you know, it doesn't curving like the fish on. Yeah, and then twenty four millimeter to seventy millimeter. That's probably one of my favorite lenses. That's a nice wide angle but with a sort of mid telling photo zoom. So seventeen millimeter is not a bad little and that's two point et. Excuse me. And then the Prime Lens, probably one of the Pim and one lens a really really enjoy is a seventy two two hundred. So seventeen millimeter, two hundred millimeters. Zoom again, F two point eight. With this lens you can add a one point four or a two point times converter, so you can double the focal la all the way. You lose one stop. That's so Kay. And they've got a one point four mark three nick on, one point three X, one point four X, sorry, and it's beautiful flight. An extra bit of glass that extends it to about two eighty. And then my prime lens is a one hundred eighty two four hundred millimis. Well, that actually has a built in converter, so that I have an external converter for that zoo, but I also have a converter built in. So I've got a little flick button where I can. I can put the one point four into the Lens, yes, either in or out. INTERESTINCT licks it. But then I've got five hundred and sixty. It goes up to five hundred and sixty millimeter, five point six or loser stop. But in most conditions where it's sunny, it's fine, you know. And with the cameras nowadays, with the ISO, you can go up to three thousand two hundred, six thousand four hundred. Yeah, so you don't have to worry about it really. And the DSIX. So the DSIX, the Nick on D six is an incredible fourteen frames a second. It's unbelievable and the alto focus is so quick. I'm about to order my second one. I had one last year. I'm getting my second one, hopefully, fingers crossed. So I've got to D five's. The older model is an incredible improvement on that, and then I'll test the z nine in the and Barcelona and maybe keep it forward the first few races. I'll see if they want back on certain I might just keep it between them so it doesn't that. How do you get best airport security, though, because they got everything to make with all of this. It's going to be a nightmare getting past airport security. How was the hope now? Yeah, I mean I carry US handling because I want to make sure that it's safe and on the plane. Yeah, it was. Again, we need to keep quiet because look at little bit. Luckily, most airlines are very good, British Airways. I try and travel British Airways because they have a policy where they don't weigh the bag. So they don't weigh your hand Bagg each and actually there's a policy really where it's alimited. Wand Wow. So I can carry my I can carry my camera bag on the plane. All fits in a beautiful, a very small Alpine stars bag. May My clothing onto is Alpine stars. It fits in the bag length ways. Two bodies to other lenses and then a few things on top. With my monopod. I've actually do anything. I've probably got here is my monopod. Let's monofuck had it here before. So yeah, my monopod is where my long lens are. So that's what wanapod. That goes in the bag. So the bags probably about that one. I even sent the bag. So what I did to Niplon, but for the repairs, are set them the whole bag in a bonds. I just set the whole lot of the send it and that's probably my care. And I've got to carry one flash. I don't really use flash very often, but sometimes if it's very, very part like a very, very dark room, you need it just for that occasion. So I carry a flash. I've got my computer, my hard drives, obviously my xqd cards. The the NIPONS use a special car called the Xine that was developed by stain the very, very quick,...

...quick to to write first of all from the from the camera body to the to the actual card, but also to download. So that's the main thing really and that's all I need. That's that's pretty much it. And then you just need an internet and most races now, well pretty much all the races, we've got free Wi fi or free capable at most places. So dawn of the days where we used to pay a thousand pounded debt of rates. This some race a thousand really well, that's alone nice end line. I as the end lacking, crazy, absolutely crazy. So yeah, those days have gone. Now it's all free Internet and actually in covid one great little inside. One great thing is that you probably see I'll put a little bit of weight on, but actually the FIA had a rule where they had to provard breakfast, lunch and dinner for all the photographers and time lass. So good. That's that's what. A little better phase or weight on, based on based on eating. But yeah, so that real hopefully continue rate. It's a sandwich is something I don't care about during the day. Really it's more about I can get breakfast at the home celle if I have a like a snack of Po pocket, pocket lunch, you know, like a small salad or a sandwich, how long as you've got drinks, really soft sugary drinks to keep the energy going, that's what and then obviously have a dinner around in evening with my colleagues. Have to talk about the day s talking about sugary drinks that give you some energy. You know, I wanted to ask gonna go red bull against red bull versus monster soon was question was how much do you actually move around during a race on the track? And you know, like, I'm pretty sure, with all the pure that you have, the lensers and everything, how do you manage it? I do carry all your Lens what about? What about? What about this one? This one's quite appropriate. That one. That's probably appropriate for now. You know that. Yeah, yeah, who, who cannot Johnson? Well, this one, he's a classic, for it, you don't Miss. Borris is a classic. So, yeah, I'll go back to the photographer's I'll go back to a nice scene from some princis my favorite. One of my favorite is still live there. Yeah, going back to what did he say? Sorry, so, with all the lensers and the Guel that you have and moving around through the track, right, like, how much of fun does it take, you know, as a photographer, to just being there? I mean my old yeah, it tendsly like with the new tracks. The new tracks are I'm going to switch this off, I can put the lights on because it's so, so dark and so yeah, so, yeah, how many miles do I do? So like like to give an example. The new tracks, I always try and do a track walk. So Saudi Arabia cat are well, as an bought said, I did complete track walks of the whole circuit. So go backwards, so you always go the backward way of the tracks. So you go against the car. We can see the cars coming out to you. Yeah, makes sense, mixense, make sense, I promise. So then you go and look at the circuit. You also go and look at the left and the right of the barrier, where the holes are, where the fences are, and that can take probably about two to three hours to do that problem and that's quite a long walk. And that's some of the races where there are night race. I might do that. Why? Because I like to do it in the day, but I also like to do it in the training so generally one of Thursday. Thursday we've got drivers arriving. So, as you saw, we Kim Ilmany. It's just copy what I really basically he's got the drivers getting out the cars, drivers arriving in the circuit. That's how he's made his name, basically. And then obviously then the drivers will go into the pits and paddock will then go do the press conference. I might go and do some technical pictures. That we weren't allowed in the pit, so we had to shoot them from the people wall, which was yeah, but we still managed to work. Now we're all out in the pits, sometimes on Thursday, and then you do you track walk. So it all sort of flows really. But then I also you might have to do the press conference now. What they did with the press conference, you probably don't know. Again, a bit an inside is that if in the early days I did quite a lot of press conferences, it was four and a half hours in the press conference room, all on your row, with the drive that you cameraman and one photographer and that we it was meets four and a half hours and they come in there. Tuesday you doleen twenty minutes next to my next two. Well, it was constant and we had to send the pictures on the back of the camera because those pictures were for the world. Pictures that you took in the pool was called the FI pool. So you did the pictures for the pool because some men they were pulled out. Everybody. You understand you're under pressure. So I did Lewis, but he won the championship in two thousand and twenty and that's a great moment to be in there when he was gone. was crying. He was his emotional actually to be in there to do that. I didn't do Max this year, but I did...

...quite a few of them again with the drivers and it's nice to be in there. Some of them are great. They give you a great reaction. Some of them are giving the fist pump. I mean some of them are really I tell you who's a really nice guy. I don't really know Mick back of that. Well, he always came in when I was in there and this pumped everybody. Yeah, I mean normally sort of them coming there and just do Tom Clarks and they did a guide them the camera beds. Awesome. It would be everybody. Mac Nike always did it to me as well and that was a really nice and you see them in the garages as well. Yeah, see Daniel Rick Car. Will you see what ass you see a lot of drivers this pumping all the mechanics when they're getting in the morning every day because they got to have that traced and relationship the team's and the mechanics are so important. Not even the engineers are that important, is the mechanics. Mak At. The driver has to rely on that mechanic freeze life really has to make sure that everything's correct on that car and done up and tightened to a certain point and safe, you know. So the mechanics are so important and they work bloody hard. They work harder than the photographers and anybody in Formula One of promise, yeah, you will get they will get a so we do a backtoback race, they will get the Monday off and Monday it's a travel so there they are the travel day, so it's not really a day off and they're arriving the hotel. They'll have a lot of drinks. I mean Monday night can be there drinking that TOA to pack. They had to pack everything up Sunday night until like twelve, one o'clock too in the morning. They then get get to the hotel, of a few hours sleep, get on the flight to go to the next race. Yeah, and then have that one day off and they're in on Tuesday. Then they work Tuesday when thirty five we sadly Sunday do it all times. You can triple headed outside they are. Yeah, the photographers slightly different. We get Monday, Tuesday, Wednds of the grave. We actually get three days but if it's a new track, we might go to the circuit on the Wednesday, but generally will get three days off. So we are too bad, to be honest. But we do work hard. It's a long day, it's a pretty head generally a twelve hour day we work. I tend to get in early and leave late. Yeah, because just the way I am a I'm passionate, I'm I'm totally immersed in the whole thing of every form of one. It's not just about the racing or the pictures of the car on track. It's about the drivers, it's about, like you say, capt getting shots of toto without skill. Yeah, yeah, well, him, you know, or Christian Morner or Jerry Horn or you know, Jerry Halliwell, or whatever she's called that. But anyways, the celebrities as well. It's yeah, it's everything that goes on one. Obviously, when we started having the fans back, it's the fans. Yeah, formal, the ones, everything, formal one, and being a photographer is not just about cars on track, it's about everything, you know, and that to me is that's how if he's you know, that's the thing. We Kim Kimilman's great at taking the picture of the drivers arriving, but he's not necessarily so good at some shots. Is Not so good at being in the right person the right time now and so on. I mean, so it's about provide a photographer really informal of one is about providing a whole packing yeah, providing everything that goes on, showing that you can show, showcase everything that goes on. In formal one, and even if it's a fan in the audience or whatever. Or so, yeah, drivers doing the donuts or or team celebrating on the pit wall or whatever, you know, or a different held. I mean, although helmet change. Yeah, they get during the sea in. Now he's crazy, because it trying to photograph them is beyond you know, it's bonkers. So but yeah, that's the passion. So tell me this leak, as reading about this, Vladimi Vas one, said that he's he usually tries to follow shadows and he's looking for the scholars when he's chasing a sword, a Shard. When, like, what does your war dare when you're trying to look for for shore? Again, you've got you've got, so you've got informal one. I can probably most sports. You've got different photographers that do different things. Today. Now vladimia is Red Bulls to Tom he's a red bull. He's what you call the Red Bulls own artists. They so he creates the artistic images really just for Red Bull. He's employment totally by Red Bull. Originally he was employed by getting, okay, but now he's got directly with Red Bull to provide artistic, sexy, doesn't matter what. They are just totally wanted picture. They don't we care to be honest. They'll use anything that he shoots. And you can see when you see him on track, I think, what the Hell is he doing? What was he doing there? You know, you just got to ignore him and just I am. I try to be artistic. I try to artistic and shoot slow shutter speed and get shadows and light, but it's not that easy when you've got to shore editorial pictures and sponsor piages a teenagers and driber pictures and work for the ser hmm, you can't win...

...an artist and he's only an artist. He's creating artistic all the time. Him's doing his thing, Kim's doing, the drivers arriving at the circuit with the girlfriends, whatever. Everyone's got the rown think I'm sort of editorial stroke, yes, broke, artist stroke, a bit of everything, as you clate. Really that's how I've always been really since the beginning. Obviously shooting from film days. You know you've got a member. I've been shooting a long time. I've gone film to digital. I've gone through the whole path of dating even both a one point where shooting film was it was really it's crazy and we at one point when Sutton's was was one of the biggest agents. Way Was the biggest agency in Formula One. We were shooting so many. On one race, giving example, we shot five hundred rolls are. Wow, what year was five hundred? But it's not just the films. The cost of the film's frintable. Their fight were about five pound much. So that's half hour just on film and another two and half thousand pound to progress. Then all the time of going through all those pictures. Lot got a check every brain. Wow, I'm just trying to work out how many pictures that is. I'm going to work it out in my camp on my that's thirty of flames times five hundred. I mean it's not a lot. That's eighteen thousand picks. Go by with your eye. It's all change from those. And then we did duplicate. So we would pick a pack of picture. So you pick your best. We start to be twenty four, we went forty eight. Eventually we got to seventy two best pictures and then we duke them tout. That copy them seventy two times. So we were doing like six thousand, seven thousand dukes on a monthday and sending them out by DHL all over the world. That's before and that's how we got really big, because people using pictures every yeah, double page spreads, and then digital came in and it changed it a little. Yeah, it's not as artistic really, but it is downtographer. It is like you said, it's about choosing the locker, it's about finding the right angles. It's sometimes staying a little bit later in the year. The race is if you need that golden yes, I mean I'm hoping that the new rules that they've got commune with the with the three day we can raids. If you look at if you look at FP two, it's a really late session. If that that is the truth, I don't know what. They've not announced anything yet, but the story is going around at the be a threeday weekend and FP two will be quite late because they have to combine what was a Thursday in Friday. Will have to extend it a bit more with the second session will be really late in the evening. So you've got five thirty two, six or five thirty two seven o'clock session, which will be incredible. The good and Nadder. Yeah, all the lights, you know that, like the Sun will be just setting beautifully. So we'll have to see. So we'll be creating someone really sexy pictures in Barrowin. We have that anyway. Course, when the intestine, yes, we get the people, Sun, send all the Oh. Yeah, we'll have to see what happens, but I'm hopeful, fingers crossed, that we have that those new rules and graid we can go a bit like will save some money. Actually, yeah, all the team would save a lot of most because, yeah, that's tell us. And maybe the maybe the mechanics, will actually get another day off. Yeah, and that would be awesome for the food work in their face. Yeah, because you want me to go to the tracks or Wednesday probably, ever, so Monday, Tuesday or so. Actually, everybody will work a lot better on a back to back here on the top of a photography. A one question I wanted to ask us. The thing about it, like fone is literally the fun one of the fastest guys that are dad right, and and photographs are a still image as such, and it's awesome to think about. Like, you know, even when I see photos, we still see the speed of the car. Somehow it does feel like it see you go. So how do you yeah, that's about freezing, you know. So you can either pick a fast shut speed and freeze the action. Yeah, so fashion to be whether it's five hundred, two, thousand two slightly more, you freeze the action and that's that's that's nice. You know, that's what everybody wants, maybe race pictures, but then you've got Vladimir. He will shoot a fifty or an eighth of a second and it blurs the perhaps. So the cars necessarily going very fast, but because you've reduced yes speed, it looks like yeah, I ask. So He may pick a corner where it's a little bit slower, but you can reduce the shutter speed and make it look like it's really fast. So, you know, most formal one cars, I think the maximum speed is like thirty, which is similar to an indie car, but indie cars are generally doing that on an O. Yes, continually around that whole lap and Indie party quite difficult to shoot at separates on a banking, but it's quite easy to pan. I mean also about panning. You can have a fash shutter speed on panning if you need to get the tire marks, and we work for Reli, our company...

...work. Okay, for really, really want to see the front, yeah, or the parilies blurred, and what's the point of that? So you need to shoot pastor to speed to anything above a thousands will freeze that logo on the wheel. Yeah, a lot of people don't like that. People like all the background looks like it's static. That is it moving. You know, someone a means. Yeah, got to keep everyone happening. So it's same situation about being artistic and being have to keep but also, you know, you've got to try and keep the sponsors at the training team and also editorially. Editorially doesn't really it doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter so much. It's more about keeping those sponsored teams and then the rivals as well, because they pick up on the team's pictures. But so, yeah, so it's all about the shutter speed. I'd say it's really about the should have speed. Excuse me, and how you were with that shutter speed. I mean I've seen people, you know, like on their iphones. They'll go up to a corner and they'll yeah, think, yeah, can put the picture by just freezing. And you can do that. You literally can do that if you want. And how to do that? You you increase to should to speak, something like four, five, six, seven thousand the second and it will free even if it comes fast. They leave on on. So if you're shooting for a French and you can't move it, yeah, reduced. Yeah, I've done it a few places. So one example was, if you look at my Brazil picture of Daniel Ricardo, when he came back on the slowder on the first lap. MMM, he came back. I just shoot it through the ment. I couldn't do I thought I'll try and get something, I'll whack the speed right up. Huh, keep my finger on there. It's a wide shot and as he comes past it just kept a finger on the front. Nice, I've frozen. But you have to increase the should speed and that's what a lot of Rady guys. So when the rally photographers shoot on a remote, they'll whack the should speed right on to freeze the action when it's up in the air. They don't not panning. See, so you can't, you can't pan it on a remote. You're going to get yeah, that's that's a work. So there you go, a little bit of an insight. But yeah, so it's about shutter speeds and I recommend that people experimental. Should have set. One Guy Contack to me today on Instagram and Shem some pictures and I said it just all look a bit starting. You need to Ron and have been drop should just even just because it's undigitally doesn't cost anything. Yes, yeah, what have you got? You got to do is put it into and everything. I mean if you look on the back of the camera, and most cameras now my my nick on, you can look on the back at hundred percent. So what it will be on the screen? Yes, I can look straight away and see it. I be sure. That's that's the key thing. And I was can put it into computer. So, yeah, just a spare man. You know what? What? What could you got to when I was shooting a film. It was costing ten on each time. Yes, right, and most of them big go in the be that's that's the thing. You know. Yeah, maybe fifty percent were in the bin. HMM, but as I got better it became seventy, five, eighty, ninety percent. So you got better and better. The more you shoot, the better you get. It's like anything in this life. It's like you know, think about George Russell. Now he's come up from karting all the way through his career. He's got better and better. Yeah, that's yeah, and now we've the best tea. Yea, yeah, we are the best. We'll see how he competes, but he will be up there. He proved it at a testing. I remember, even when it means you know, bed happy form and said he's for the first time. He was up there with Louise the key to we don't know what tires or from. Yeah, I'll testing is very false, but have an idea your are on track. You know if but I can see on track of a cast quick, if it's got the right line, it sticks to the road and it's coming through that corner. Yeah, bloody flat out quick and it's grip and I can see straight away as to quit lap, even as a photographer shooting watching. So now now that then everything's going digital little bit. So how many what's your click to brint reissue now, because earlier everything was putting, but now how much do you print? Well, but you've got you've got to remember. I mean my colleagues say I shoot to my editor say through, but it's a fact of life. I'm probably like a Bha. I'm always holting for that moment. If you're not, they're ready. I mean another example, the way the cap my camera works is that the camera is always on Autopolus. Today, the camera and the Lens together is always an auto focus. But I can manually adjust the Lens. Yes, yeah, on the front button. Yes, so when I when I use the fund button, it's not automatics auto focus. Yeah, back, interesting, great, it's a great happens. I've got my back button to go auto from. Yeah, the fun button is manual. You Manually, but I've always got auto focus there because the lens will still work manually and...

...wad focus. And the way, you can always set it up as well. If you're shooting slow shutter speed, you can set one button on the camera that gives you five hundred straight away. Yeah, so even if you're shooting at fifteen, if something happened, you can flick straight away to five hundred. One another button. So you've got auto focus on that back button. Grade you ask any course was over there, they'll be shooting the same. It's you. You presettle the buttons. So that is what to focus, but on the back button and it will. Shi'll still manually focus. So most of the time when you do in a Panchon, you just focus on the ground and then you can through. You don't need or to focus. It's just really for head on or the drivers walking towards you or a certain certain things you don't need or to focus. For, say, the press conference, he's not move really, but he may twitch a little bit either side. It's more about hand moves in what I want to go to the press conference is I always want to see a bit hammer. When a driver is just stood there, some of them are tell him some immediate training is that they're told to put the hands that I like that because then they don't yeah, really great. Yeah, it took your hands in. Don't do any movement. I first, as you can see now, I've had an immediate training. I want to see handry. Yeah, it's whether it yeah, this like that one, don't you know it? You need to have interact, and that's why sometimes about Louis, he's got great interunction in the press room. Daniel Ricardo's another one. He's laughing and joking. Yeah, crazy things. Some drivers never move the hands. They're just you meet. That's it. Can it's or give me me. Yeah, you need and I'm sure you still loved by millions. And Yeah, he's retiring on. I guess the next one's to go, probably Finando, probably loose. Those are the next two oldest drivers. Yes, and I'm Daniels get in there as well. Jaquet, we're will do that. Yeah, sorry, mettler. Yeah, that they speaking of Daniel. I'm gonna ask you this. So, so you want. You've said this multiple times. You've got the famous belly flob image of him when I but but what I want to ask you is what I'm want to ask you is you've said, and correct me if I'm wrong, is you camped out at that place because you knew this was going to happen. Wow, I didn't camp about but all of the time yeah, you know with the bit line. But why did you choose that place? Because I've got of your photo has all the all the photographer's on the back and you're the only one sitting this said. Why was I because we did because if he mentioned in front of me is the team from. Yeah, I would in the middle. So the other photographers for my agency. One was at the back. Wow, that's all right. Yeah, so I'm next to the red bull photographer. Mark Thompson works for getting. He shoots for Rent Bull. I know, get everyone looking at her. I'm next. I'M gonna get it in smart mothers, I think. Think there was an Italian for some book. Did actually get my picture. He gets in our pictures a lot, but that's the tell. He inspol you sometimes. But Albert so cripper gets, gets in the picture a lot and he's in my picture on the belly flat. It's a crop bill. But yeah, so we originally was the picture of the whole team. Yeah, and then people start jumping in and then eventually Daniel turned up and he just went to the edge and I didn't know where he was going to go. Don't know where someone's going to go and do it. He could have done it in them in front of me and I would have been a head on. Sure, Huh, I might have not got it, but I was actually on a fourth. I was on that fourteen millimeters. I was actually on my lend. So I've actually got Alberto cripper in it. He's leaning for as as all it as he does all the time. He looks forward, back across. But belly flot was just a sequence of pictures. You know, some people have got the backs and yeah, I mean obviously I posted that. Manuel loved it. I mean I was working for Formula One at that time. So they posted. Yeah, and I thought the Great Charity Picture. So I went to see Daniel, I think two rates later in Germany and I said would sign it and he said Yeah, I'm going to do it for charity. Signed five for me because I've got five for charity, and then side one for me. I said, let's put a little comment and he said you mark and when early fly. It's a great in character for Daniel and also and also my photographer Manuel, Manuel Manuel Gory is. He's a he's a great Australian form lives in Perth. He work in formally ones about three years with me and he took Daniel's picture in Monaco where he stood on the car and he's gone like that on the hunts, full length, beautiful picture, and Daniel used it. Yeah, but didn't credit it all. I. Yeah. So when he went to...

...see you, when it's it's it's like to fold, you know, so when it likes to see him, I said, Oh, could you, can you do one, one, two, Manuel, but could you also put common mm, and you did want and then he put redemption. Mean, because mine also the one. Yeah, or shouldn't have had a miss. Hits Stop, and that's redemption for that, but also redemption because he didn't credit him, and I told him the story about no credit. But yeah, well, he means to things. So he's got that in. He signed at the same time as he's got that. Gave that to him and then obviously, the year later we totally the previous year. We've done the golden the golden moment of yeah, the golden moment, all the moment with will next year. Louis signed ten of them. He didn't want the five I given Louis Five. You didn't want him, so I got ten. So ten of them signed to charity, which is great, and then the year after was the Max one. Yeah, to maximum lass. I find a bunk, yea. Yeah, so I've missed two years. I need to bring them back at some point this year, hopefully. I mean they've been signing some stuff drivers, but I didn't want to put a mad but then so I want to bring up, want to bring that back to you. He said, I you've missed something and on that nor the thought that comes to my minders. Obviously you kind be everywhere on a drag when so much is happening. Would have been here like some Oh shit, I just missed this. I could, but I'm not even sure to tell you now. We want to no more. It's warmth. Really famous moment. Well, there's a couple of moments. Actually, no, but I'm trying to think which one should I tell going back, going back to the moment where I was shooting film and I was at the end of the race in Monson. It's when Christian Fitzapaldi went up the back of I'm not even should might have been pre Luigi Martini in the minar be and he went up back of him and went through the air like that, and then landing on the ground upside down, across the line. Yeah, and yeah, and I'm going a minute anyway. So this is my last story. If you don't, my problem anyway. So, yeah, I was shooting. I was shooting films. I used to put one roll in and in those days you could shoot leave on that without putting a film in. Oh, oh, landed on the ground and incredible sequence. I go I've got the whole lot. I'm so happy and brilliant. It's amazing. It's amazing and I go to open the back of the camera and it's not there side La. So yeah, it's a it's an amazing story and one I'll never forget. But everyone makes mistakes. This life is about making mistakes. You learned by your mistakes. You know state was don't have a camera. Why you can't put film. So now you can. You've got a custom function button where it stops. You've been taking in higs if you haven't got a card in it. That's nice. Yes, and then, yeah, if the camera has been reset right back, it comes back to you. You shoot something. Another example, not my not my sequence, but one photographer the work for sometimes he does actually work back in Formula One used to work for Sutton's. He was there in Australia. He put the camera down and then Michael Schumacher came towards him in the Ferrari and barrel rolled. When to pick the camera up. The camera gone into silent mode. So sometimes in the old days camera they took him two seconds, about two or three seconds, for the camera to wrapped in. The camera just the cart. The car just hit the top. No functions of the buttons, Camera Not Know, not reading his manual. Probably by most men they never return. Yeah, so, yeah, you go. So mys from far away. Now I know you have to go. I'M gonna go down. Yeah, yeah, one thing before we have this up. You are been through almost all left oneeras for decades in this which one has been your fear? With F one here, I think not earrors, but because I try to do it year on, year out. Okay, okay, I think last last year. Who who was I think the first? My first year, one thousand nine hundred and ninety two. Nigel Mansell's year. Five on prizy won the first five grand breeze. That was my first famish year. Flying Fin Ninety three gun tragedy.

Yeah, Rolland Rats and bobs, Frangi D so, I mean to me last year was just incredible as it was ten every racing. That's US what mind blowing seasons of ever I've covered informal one and I think that's one of going to stick by Netflix. is going to be just incredible. Yeast for Nash Yeah, was incredible and I was just so happy to be there at every grown, everys and I'm really thankful the FIA to Formula One onto my company, Motor Sport Network, and if you want to go and see any images there on motor sport images, doc coocky and my instagram, I'm going to get it in. Yeah, at one SUTURN, if you want to go and see my instagram posts this year and going to be more interactive at the tracks. Still give you the behind the scenes and Nice Hawks through the circuit and things like that. So it's going to be great, great year. Well, I'm not sure about spot. I'm going to say I'm not looking forward to spar. I know who destroyed what have they done? What are they doing to my yo? Rude? Yeah, Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to going back to Australia, to Melbourne. Melbourne, yeah, he's yes, it's all used to be great to go there for the first race, but anyway it just works very well with barrain in the testing and everything. So well, yeah, she'LD be a great season. MIAMI. Yeah, I mean and being credible, I'm really looking forward to Bammi. I think my kids are going to come to my Ami for the Grand Prix, if I can get them tickets. Now. Your friend doesn't want to hear. Yeah, Mike, this has this has been. Yeah, thank you so much all the pleasure, guys, great cats, and I'm looking forward to the new cars, the new season a hand. It's going to be absolutely incredible. Just keep watching my instagram and we're going to have fun and we're going to hopefully watch this very, very cut on yes, Youtube. Yeah, yeah, you do apple, apple podcast for it's fine, if I have everywhere's gonna be Avery. Was gonna be out here. Well, yes, yes, and thank you. Hopefully a lovely relationship we've build with their fun fan fiction and my to do so. Thank you so much joining. Okay, Cheer Right, thank you. This is a fun friend fiction. Say Anymore. My what do they do?.

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